big companies are announcing big lay-offs. big blackberry maker, there have been others. are you worried about a double dip and how that complicates things? >> yeah, yeah. it sure does. if we go a double dip, if you asked me that question three weeks ago, a month ago, i would have said no w he -- we are not going to have a double dip. now speed bump that obama call it, looks to be a ditch those numbers, companies like cisco, blackberry, laying off workers. that's a really bad sign. it suggests we may be headed to a double dip. here's the problem if we do hit a double dip on this economy, it doesn't matter what they do on the debt deal. the deficit is going way up again. we could hit a two trillion dollar deficit if we hit a double dip recession because we won't get the revenues that you need people are -- you need when people are working. >> neil: very good to see you again. steve moore, in pennsylvania. >> we default it is armageddon. the presidential candidate who says if we don't default it is real armageddon. thanks to the venture card from capital one, we get double